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		<title>Episode 2. Jessica Wolfendale on Torture Lite</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s been three years since George Bush announced that the United States does not engage in torture. Since then, a continuous stream of information has indicated that, although Jack Bauer–style brutality is officially prohibited, the U.S. officially sanctions and regularly &#8230; <a href="http://publicethicsradio.org/2008/09/15/episode-2-jessica-wolfendale-on-torture-lite/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=publicethicsradio.org&amp;blog=4551589&amp;post=102&amp;subd=publicethicsradio&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s been three years since George Bush announced that the United States does not engage in torture. Since then, a continuous stream of information has indicated that, although Jack Bauer–style brutality is officially prohibited, the U.S. officially sanctions and regularly employs interrogation tactics that push legal and moral boundaries. In today’s episode, Jessica Wolfendale sits down with Christian Barry to determine where those boundaries lie.</p>
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<p>Specifically, Wolfendale is interested in the term “torture lite” and the distinction it attempts to draw between primarily physical techniques and more psychological ones. In her words, there is “<em>torture</em>, which is violent, physically mutilating, cruel, and brutal, and <em>torture lite</em>, which refers to interrogation methods (such as extended sleep deprivation, noise bombardment, and forced standing) that are, it is claimed, more restrained and less severe than real torture.”</p>
<p>Wolfendale denies this distinction. There’s no legitimate reason to authorize practices like extended sleep deprivation but deny old-fashioned beatings. Torture lite techniques produce lasting effects, both physical and psychological, that are profoundly harmful. And they have pernicious effects for the torturers and the institutions that authorize themselves. In order to be useful, these techniques require interrogation sessions that can last for weeks, months or even longer. They require networks of interrogators who practice these techniques on all the prisoners who pass before them. As Wolfendale puts it, torture lite lends itself to institutionalization.</p>
<p>This notion of institutionalization also speaks against the ever-popular ticking bomb scenario. If it takes weeks of interrogation to produce useful intelligence, then torture lite won’t be much help to Jack Bauer.</p>
<p>All that and more. Enjoy.</p>
<p><a title="Jessica Wolfendale Bio" href="http://www.cappe.edu.au/staff/jessica-wolfendale.htm" target="_blank">Jessica Wolfendale</a> is a Research Fellow at the University of Melbourne division of the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics.</p>
<p>Click <a title="Episode 2. Jessica Wolfendale on Torture Lite" href="http://www.cappe.edu.au/media/jessica_wolfendale_on_torture_lite.mp3" target="_blank">here</a> to download (38:31, 26.5 mb, mp3), or click on the online media player below. You can also download the <a href="http://publicethicsradio.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/per_episode_2_transcript.pdf" target="_blank">transcript</a>.</p>
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<h3>Resources</h3>
<p>Christian and Jessica refer to a number of books and papers in their discussion. Here are those links.</p>
<p>Wolfendale’s draft paper from which this discussion flows: <a title="Torture Lite and the Normalisation of Torture" href="http://publicethicsradio.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/wolfendaletorturelitesept08.pdf" target="_blank">&#8220;Torture Lite and the Normalisation of Torture.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Her book, <a title="Jessica Wolfendale, Torture and the Military Profession" href="http://us.macmillan.com/tortureandthemilitaryprofession" target="_blank">Torture and the Military Profession</a> (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2007).</p>
<p>The Charles Dickens quote in the intro comes from ch. 7, &#8220;Philadelphia, and Its Solitary Penitentiary&#8221; in <a title="American Notes" href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/675" target="_blank"><em>American Notes</em></a>.</p>
<p>The David Sussman article Christian refers to is <a href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118691034/abstract">David Sussman, &#8220;What&#8217;s Wrong with Torture?&#8221;</a> <em>Philosophy &amp; Public Affairs</em> 33, no. 1 (2005): 1–33.</p>
<p>Alan Dershowitz sets out the case for torture warrants in, among other places, <a href="http://www.alandershowitz.com/publications/docs/torturewarrants2.html">Alan Dershowitz, &#8220;Want to Torture? Get a Warrant,&#8221;</a> San Francisco Chronicle, January 22, 2002, p. A19. The reference to a purportedly successful ticking-bomb interrogation in the Philippines comes from his <a href="http://yalepress.yale.edu/book.asp?isbn=9780300101539">Why Terrorism Works: Understanding the Threat, Responding to the Challenge</a> (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2003), p. 137.</p>
<p>Christian quotes Mark Bowden as writing, “Few moral imperatives make such sense on a large scale but break down so dramatically in the particular.” This line comes from <a title="Mark Bowden, The Dark Art of Interrogation" href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200310/bowden" target="_blank">Mark Bowden, &#8220;The Dark Art of Interrogation,&#8221;</a> Atlantic Monthly, October 2003.</p>
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		<title>Schedule Change</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Due to some technical problems, we&#8217;re making a small change to the schedule of upcoming episodes. We&#8217;re swapping Leif Wenar and Jessica Wolfendale. This means that the Wolfendale episode on torture lite is coming out tomorrow, 9/15, and Wenar&#8217;s on &#8230; <a href="http://publicethicsradio.org/2008/09/14/schedule-change/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=publicethicsradio.org&amp;blog=4551589&amp;post=99&amp;subd=publicethicsradio&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to some technical problems, we&#8217;re making a small change to the schedule of upcoming episodes. We&#8217;re swapping Leif Wenar and Jessica Wolfendale. This means that the Wolfendale episode on torture lite is coming out tomorrow, 9/15, and Wenar&#8217;s on 10/6. Sorry to all you Leif Wenar fans out there, but I promise you won&#8217;t be disappointed once you&#8217;ve heard the good Dr. Wolfendale.</p>
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		<title>Upcoming Episodes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To whet your appetite, here&#8217;s the release schedule for our next few episodes. 9/15: Leif Wenar (Kings College London) on the Resource Curse 10/6: Jessica Wolfendale (University of Melbourne) on Torture Lite 10/27: Larry Temkin (Rutgers) on Extending Human Lifespans &#8230; <a href="http://publicethicsradio.org/2008/08/23/upcoming-episodes/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=publicethicsradio.org&amp;blog=4551589&amp;post=72&amp;subd=publicethicsradio&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whet your appetite, here&#8217;s the release schedule for our next few episodes.</p>
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<li>10/6: Jessica Wolfendale (University of Melbourne) on Torture Lite</li>
<li>10/27: Larry Temkin (Rutgers) on Extending Human Lifespans</li>
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<p>We&#8217;ve got lots more in the works, and we&#8217;ll let you know about those as they materialize. In the gaps between shows, I&#8217;ll be posting here with discussions of our past episodes, previews of future ones, and lots more.</p>
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